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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 18:18:00 -
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Well, Gankers have been saying forever "its not about the insurance" Time to put your money where yer mouth is
tho; Goons are winning EVE by making CCP break it by making it carebear land lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 19:34:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Phantom Slave wrote:I'm in favor of this, but only for 1 thing. ISK Faucet is getting turned off. Now it might not be a huge amount, since its generally cheap ships being used, but it's just that much less ISK being created out of thin air.
I do feel bad for the suicide gankers who will have to work harder to find good targets of opportunity though. Best of luck to you all. You wanna turn off the faucet? Get rid of missions, incirsuions, Ice and minerals Get rid of everything .. and make one prefitted ship given after each death. No skills, no industry, no market.. pure PvP however noone would pay for such game and probably noone will play it.
gotta get rid of PVP
they already a have it AND it has WIS its called Star Trek Online. AND its gonna be F2P AND it has P2W too! They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 19:49:00 -
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Endeavour Starfleet wrote:The tears I like are those from the big alliances who know CCP is going to respond to them trying to rig things directly in favor of them vs the smaller alliances and corps.
This is a symbolic first step. The next needs to be to change the structure HP of mining craft by several orders of magnitude in order to stop the "Alpha before concord" crap. Make it many times more expensive to take down mining craft in hisec involving concord and the direct market manipulation will slow.
Supposedly CCP are going to "look at the CONCORD AI" to "tweak" them because theyre "too easy" and this "needs fixing" according to Hilmar via Twitter They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 19:56:00 -
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Institute in station ganks so market traders have to pvp too They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 20:15:00 -
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Phantom Slave wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Phantom Slave wrote:I'm in favor of this, but only for 1 thing. ISK Faucet is getting turned off. Now it might not be a huge amount, since its generally cheap ships being used, but it's just that much less ISK being created out of thin air.
I do feel bad for the suicide gankers who will have to work harder to find good targets of opportunity though. Best of luck to you all. You wanna turn off the isk faucet? Get rid of missions, incirsuions, Ice and minerals oh and PVP Ice and minerals aren't ISK faucets, as they don't create isk out of thin air.
they dont? How you figure? Then Incursions and missions arent either. They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 21:00:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:It is good that CCP gives message to all that Highsec will be secure again, after insurance nerf.
Now we can all run missions with officer fitted ships without fear.
Why not, its not like Goons have the sack to actually kill em :p Or Incursion runners either
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 22:08:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Phantom Slave wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:Phantom Slave wrote:I'm in favor of this, but only for 1 thing. ISK Faucet is getting turned off. Now it might not be a huge amount, since its generally cheap ships being used, but it's just that much less ISK being created out of thin air.
I do feel bad for the suicide gankers who will have to work harder to find good targets of opportunity though. Best of luck to you all. You wanna turn off the isk faucet? Get rid of missions, incirsuions, Ice and minerals oh and PVP Ice and minerals aren't ISK faucets, as they don't create isk out of thin air. they dont? How you figure? Then Incursions and missions arent either. ISK faucet - any activity which results in a transfer of ISK from a NPC wallet to yours ISK sink - any activity which results in a transfer of ISK out of your wallet and into a NPC's Ice / Minerals do neither of the above. Nor do mission drops. Bounties paid out when you kill a NPC rat do result in ISK being transfered from the NPC's wallet to yours (therefore they are a faucet).
so... turn all high sec rats into drones then yer good
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 22:16:00 -
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Banechild wrote:So how does losing an insurance payout changes anything ? Well it doesn't just because you get 40-60mils less per gank mean nothing, it only means you have to gank some more targets or get more picky with your targets.
And people who cry that this is somehow making high sec more safe. Well it won't, you can still gank all the ships you like but now you have to make isk to replace those ships (like the rest of us) for your "PvP" habits.
well like was said earlier. Those gankers that have said tat its not about the insurance for years will be put to he test lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.06 22:58:00 -
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what I dont get is theyre putting new ships in the game that are in essence designed to be suicide gankers and then take away insurance... give with one hand take with the other? They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 00:50:00 -
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Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
My 2 isk - Empire wars and most empire pvp has largely been a consenusal affair for a considerable period of time.
Yeah, all you had to do was dock up a while, if that got TOO long, you put on a long skill an played world of tanks or something for a few days. Not like wardecs ever were the end all be all of empire nonconsentual pvp lol. I never saw ppl qq about making docking up a exploit like they do about decshield
Andski wrote:Aggressive Nutmeg wrote:I think most of us define a 'carebear' as someone who engages in activity within EVE that has little or no risk attached to it. By that definition you'd have to say suicide ganking is probably the ultimate carebear activity. Removal of insurance helps, but suicide ganking is still pretty cheap.
Miners take a huge risk every time they undock their Hulks. Hisec is crawling with carebear suicide gankers.
But I'd be happy to see CONCORD removed. The idea that CONCORD can magically appear anywhere in empire and instantly catch and kill the 'baddies' is a bit far-fetched.
But it is also far-fetched that any 'baddy' can suicide gank an innocent ship quite cheaply and then magically get re-born, without suspension or gaol time, to go ahead and kill the next innocent ship.
Empire can be just as safe if we fix the above stupid game mechanics. Very few players are going to REGULARLY gank innocents if it means their character will be suspended (in some way) for a period of time - and then perhaps be 'shadowed' by the faction police when they're released on parole. :) "high-sec is not intended to be safe"
apparently CCP disagrees now
Plus, you guys should be happy as hell, youre getting CCP to break the game FOR you like Goons have been trying to do like forever
"Grief play and misery make you happy."
lol find any definition of this in EVE
It basically doesnt exist
Unless you can flip in a starter system oooo then watch out. They put it in the EULA (or somesuch) an everything lol They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
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Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 00:58:00 -
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Fille Balle wrote:Wow, holy threadnaught batman! .
wow THAT definition has fallen
18 pages is not a TN lol
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 01:21:00 -
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Andski wrote:Richard Hammond II wrote:apparently CCP disagrees now
Plus, you guys should be happy as hell, youre getting CCP to break the game FOR you like Goons have been trying to do like forever
"Grief play and misery make you happy."
lol find any definition of this in EVE
It basically doesnt exist
Unless you can flip in a starter system oooo then watch out. They put it in the EULA (or somesuch) an everything lol you're dumb if you think this will curtail or do anything to limit suicide ganking
point to where I said that
oh wait you cant cause I didnt.....
swing and a miss
try again
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 01:22:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Gealla wrote:
Probably, if CCP's goal is to increase the eve playerbase numbers to the point where it once again afford to diversify into other title production, so all of thier eggs aren't in the same proverbial basket, then catering to the casual masses is the only way to go.
Wow may not be hard core sandbox like eve, but it has over 11million paying subs....something ccp is sure to have noticed. The cold hard business facts are, cater to the majority if you want to make money, the minority will either adapt or find something else.
Having there business direction dictated to them by a bunch of online gamers who suddenly decided to unsub etc due to incarna will have, if nothing else, opened their eyes to the pitfalls of catering to the minority..
tldr - Eve will go casual, so ccp can grow.
Everyone that has chased after WOWs subs has failed. Every MMO that changed its makeup to go after WOW subs has collapsed. EVE has done nothing but grow year on year so there is no need to change and go soft.
Odd, Ive been reading articles as to how theyve been bleeding subs since cata... like 300,000-600,000 at a time
That in itself is kinda funny cause any other mmo loses that many subs an theyd straight die
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 04:04:00 -
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Scrapyard Bob wrote:They're not in it for profit, they just want to watch the world burn.
The Jokers of EVE They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.07 17:33:00 -
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Ryllic Sin wrote:Inbrainsane wrote:Botters rejoice. Botters already rejoice, they rent space from alliances, plus of course plenty of "PvPers" use bots, the number of hypocritical nulltards is hilarious.
Mostly known as Goons lol They have ppl IN CCP and ppl are surprised they get away with it? Lol Goons have BECOME BoB so... if Goons won EVE but Goons are the same as BoB were... BoB WON EVE
Victor Fenris wrote:
Ah gankers tears...Sweetest tears! You are right, it is a cold and harsh universe, and it is cold and harsh that you should not get insurance for a gank!
GJ CCP
lol yes. To the qqing:
ADAPT OR DIE They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:17:00 -
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Ladie Harlot wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:First off, my corp/alliance lives in null sec, and has for as long as I've played EvE. Additionally, we have a strict ROE that prohibits Hi-sec ganking, I will never understand why people join corps and alliances that tell tell them how to play the game.
So ppl DO mine in Goons?
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |

Richard Hammond II
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2011.11.10 00:59:00 -
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K Suri wrote:Andski wrote:To expand on that, my alliance recruits straight-up newbies on trial accounts from out-of-game communities like Something Awful, gets them out to nullsec, hands them skillbooks, implants, ISK and an endless amount of free frigates, and over time we turn them into jaded bittervets. No recruting in GD Goon!! Besides you don't want to help them. You want them to help you. It's a numbers game ain't it?
They dont recruit from EVE see They recruit only targets from EVE. If this wasnt just the oficial channels, theyd be in trouble but as it is lol
They hired actual clothing designers for WiS clothes "no wonder the monocle cost $80, they had to pay royalties" Screw "FiS" its called EVE CCP |
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